Random Rant of the Week: Islam and Do-gooders
Just read a post here about muslims and I was compelled to post a reply, It went on for so long, I thought I might as well post it here too!
Damn thats a good article, It just caught my eye and im glad I read
it. I fully agree with what Ziauddin is saying but when taking the
danish pictures as an example, I would like to put my perspective
accross.
Firstly, I am the first to admit that I do not know anything about
Islam! Now this is not because I was/am ignorant, this is because I
was brought up in a small east yorkshire town that didnt have 1 muslim
living there.
Secondly, the expression "deliberate misconstruction of Islam" is
greatly overemphisised. This article was presumably written as a more
elequent version of protest to the danish cartoons. Since his (I say
his, but for all I know, she could be a woman) argument was not to
stereotype all muslims into a catagory where they hate everyone else,
the above statement is essentially hypocritical. You ask why?
Well from my point of view (and I know that the cartoons where not
directed at me) the cartoons are exactly what they are. CARTOONS!
He thinks this is a form of racism, and yes there definatly are people
that are obviously wrong and downright discusting about racism, but
this is most definatly not!
Its just someone having a laugh!!
For example, take a look at some recent british sarcastic comedy on
TV. Pretty much all the comedy is based upon someone taking the mick
out of someone else, be it against chavs, alcoholics, M.P's jews,
christians, catholics or yes, dare I say it, MUSLIMS!!
If a black american took the mick out of white people because they cant
dance as well as we can, I wouldnt get offended, but, and heres the
thing,
if someone wrote and I quote:
“Massacre those who malign the Prophet” or “Butcher those who mock Islam”
Then I WOULD and DO take offence.
The exact same argument sprung up between catholics and the Monty
Python staff about 30 years ago. If you have seen any Monty python,
you will understand. All that happened then was a few priests and
ministors took to TV chat shows, and had a good old fasioned debate.
The came to the conlusion that they where having a laugh!
These days, catholocism is still here and the Monty Pythons Life of
Brian, (yes they really are saying that jesus was a coincinental fluke)
is a classic!
Now, bear with me here, imagine that you are like me, like any other
"normal" (debatable :D) white, christian/catholic/atheist living in a
small market town with hills and cows and some cool new invention
called the internet, and you first see a CARTOON (i stress the word
cartoon) and then see
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
Which one appears to be more offensive?
So all these people living in this market town will now have some small
irreprible predjudice that ALL muslims think this, not because they are
angry, bad, rascist people, but because that is all they see.
To take another example, which is the other way round, was the world
cup flag scandle. Thanks to a few muslim do-gooders, it got all over
the news that all muslims where offended by putting british flags on
their cars!! Do you know what I said when I heard that? "You have got
to be kidding" because its natural and a lot of people leave it at that
adding yet another prejudice, then I realised, pretty much all these
muslim fella's ARE british, and theyve probably got a flag in their
bathroom saying "GO ENGLAND" (even though we know that they will
undoubtedly loose :D)
Unfortunatly, we live in a world where bad news makes good news. You
will never see a young muslim lad helping a white granny accross the
street in the same way that you will never see a white lad helping a
muslim granny.
So we have to confide in the fact that in the middle of all these not
very nice people (I had to delete a swearword) there are a lot, and I
mean a lot of normal, nice people and unfortunatly there are going to
be people that go way over the top with their anti-offence morals (we
call them do-gooders), so just chill, take a step back and concider all
the good people that you have met and stop worrying, because at the end
of the day, its not worth it.
SCUM wil always be SCUM, you can bleach it, but it will always come back.
Oh and by the way, just for the record I have no affiliation to any
religion whatsoever. Muslim, hindi, christian? Whatever floats your
boat.
Cheers,
Phil Winder
Damn thats a good article, It just caught my eye and im glad I read
it. I fully agree with what Ziauddin is saying but when taking the
danish pictures as an example, I would like to put my perspective
accross.
Firstly, I am the first to admit that I do not know anything about
Islam! Now this is not because I was/am ignorant, this is because I
was brought up in a small east yorkshire town that didnt have 1 muslim
living there.
Secondly, the expression "deliberate misconstruction of Islam" is
greatly overemphisised. This article was presumably written as a more
elequent version of protest to the danish cartoons. Since his (I say
his, but for all I know, she could be a woman) argument was not to
stereotype all muslims into a catagory where they hate everyone else,
the above statement is essentially hypocritical. You ask why?
Well from my point of view (and I know that the cartoons where not
directed at me) the cartoons are exactly what they are. CARTOONS!
He thinks this is a form of racism, and yes there definatly are people
that are obviously wrong and downright discusting about racism, but
this is most definatly not!
Its just someone having a laugh!!
For example, take a look at some recent british sarcastic comedy on
TV. Pretty much all the comedy is based upon someone taking the mick
out of someone else, be it against chavs, alcoholics, M.P's jews,
christians, catholics or yes, dare I say it, MUSLIMS!!
If a black american took the mick out of white people because they cant
dance as well as we can, I wouldnt get offended, but, and heres the
thing,
if someone wrote and I quote:
“Massacre those who malign the Prophet” or “Butcher those who mock Islam”
Then I WOULD and DO take offence.
The exact same argument sprung up between catholics and the Monty
Python staff about 30 years ago. If you have seen any Monty python,
you will understand. All that happened then was a few priests and
ministors took to TV chat shows, and had a good old fasioned debate.
The came to the conlusion that they where having a laugh!
These days, catholocism is still here and the Monty Pythons Life of
Brian, (yes they really are saying that jesus was a coincinental fluke)
is a classic!
Now, bear with me here, imagine that you are like me, like any other
"normal" (debatable :D) white, christian/catholic/atheist living in a
small market town with hills and cows and some cool new invention
called the internet, and you first see a CARTOON (i stress the word
cartoon) and then see
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
Which one appears to be more offensive?
So all these people living in this market town will now have some small
irreprible predjudice that ALL muslims think this, not because they are
angry, bad, rascist people, but because that is all they see.
To take another example, which is the other way round, was the world
cup flag scandle. Thanks to a few muslim do-gooders, it got all over
the news that all muslims where offended by putting british flags on
their cars!! Do you know what I said when I heard that? "You have got
to be kidding" because its natural and a lot of people leave it at that
adding yet another prejudice, then I realised, pretty much all these
muslim fella's ARE british, and theyve probably got a flag in their
bathroom saying "GO ENGLAND" (even though we know that they will
undoubtedly loose :D)
Unfortunatly, we live in a world where bad news makes good news. You
will never see a young muslim lad helping a white granny accross the
street in the same way that you will never see a white lad helping a
muslim granny.
So we have to confide in the fact that in the middle of all these not
very nice people (I had to delete a swearword) there are a lot, and I
mean a lot of normal, nice people and unfortunatly there are going to
be people that go way over the top with their anti-offence morals (we
call them do-gooders), so just chill, take a step back and concider all
the good people that you have met and stop worrying, because at the end
of the day, its not worth it.
SCUM wil always be SCUM, you can bleach it, but it will always come back.
Oh and by the way, just for the record I have no affiliation to any
religion whatsoever. Muslim, hindi, christian? Whatever floats your
boat.
Cheers,
Phil Winder
